I'm Kind of Over It

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
12/07/2016 at 22:32 • Filed to: Fiesta ST

This car is built like shit, feels like it is going to fail, and is spastic in anything that isn’t dry. It’s a blast to drive, but the charm is quickly wearing off.

The traction control freaks out sending the car into different direction, and today the car jumped out of first while crossing a busy road. The other day I found moisture building on the inside, from what seems like a failed seal. The usb connection now seems loose, because it makes static noises on bumps.

I plan on dropping it off at the dealer with my list of complaints after Christmas, but the charm is nearly gone. On top of the weak sheet metal, terrible paint, and other quality issues, I wouldn’t recommend this car to anyone. Too bad I’m stuck with it for a while.

A place that I hate, along with a car I’m beginning to feel the same for.

DISCUSSION (100)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:34

I KNEW IT

I KNEW ITTTTTT

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:36

It’s fun, but it’s also a pile of shit...

Nothing > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:36

I really enjoyed my FoST. For the 11 months I had it, it was a fun diversion from what I normally drive. I don’t miss it.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:38

A while ago when you started posting that your FiST made you appreciate the Slowrunner more, I kept a watchful eye. It was reminiscent (I can’t spell) of when I started driving my pickup more and more and driving the Celica less.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:39

The 4Runner never really gave me the feeling that something expensive was about to happen, this does. Luckily it still has a warranty.

jariten1781 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:39

That blows...I’ve had mine for nearly 3 years and the only issue is the mixer door clicking.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jariten1781
12/07/2016 at 22:41

Mines a 2016, so in theory, everything should have been worked out by now. Maybe I got a Monday morning or Friday afternoon car, or maybe I’m just used to old Toyota build quality.

For Sweden > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:41

Are you suggesting that Mexico isn’t sending their best Fiestas?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Nothing
12/07/2016 at 22:41

I read the comments on the “The RS is the cheapest M car you can buy” post, and a lot of FoST owners chimed in. “Yeah it was a great car -- I traded it for something else after a year though and bought a Mustang/WRX/Tacoma/Paseo.” I’m thinking, shit, how great could it have been?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > For Sweden
12/07/2016 at 22:42

I think they were drinking their best tequila the night before they built this one.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:44

Well a warranty won’t make you like it again... May I recommend... A different vehicle?

E90M3 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:45

Why are people getting rid of them? Are there just a bunch of problems with them?

Tekamul > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:46

I’ve been in that lot. It was part of a trip that was full of very good and very bad, which sounds a lot like your FiST.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:47

I’ll probably hold on to it for a little while longer to keep building credit, but dump it after next year. Unless the ST curse gives my Fiesta the sweet release.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:48

How bad is the paint? Commenting before ferd fanboiz show up.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Tekamul
12/07/2016 at 22:49

I lived in that area for 3 years. It’s a terrible place to live. Wow, it kind of was like my Fiesta. I enjoyed it thoroughly the first few months, and then I realized that it was a one trick pony, and it sucked.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > E90M3
12/07/2016 at 22:49

Don’t look at me, I drive a Tercel.

I assume it’s a crossover of a lot of things: 1) quality control issues, 2) honeymoon wears off, 3) new shiny car (ie the new Mustang) comes along and you can’t resist, and/or 4) that fiasco with many owners getting pretty awful fuel economy.

Jcarr > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:51

Pretty much why we bought a Camry instead of a Fusion.

E90M3 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:51

Do they really get bad fuel economy? Not that you know since you drive a Tercel, but you know maybe you know.

Nothing > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:51

For the $19,600 I paid for it, total drive off the lot cost (not including trade) it was a great bargain. I’d say for a $20k budget, it’s hard to beat for a fun, functional hatchback. My problem was that I broke my self proclaimed rule when I bought the Focus: Always have a truck and a car. It can be in whatever order, project truck, reliable car, reliable truck, project car. When I bought the Focus, I traded in my ‘12 Tundra. I had a project Miata. My brain couldn’t handle the two cars that served a rather similar purpose. Now that I’m back in truck and car ownership world, I vow to not leave it again.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:51

Another year? Are you certain? That’s a looooong time to be driving something you don’t like...

(yes I am a bad influence)

daender > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:52

Oddly enough, I was talking the local leader for SCR’s autocross series. He’s wanting to offload his FiST next year as well.

That said, pop’s ‘08 Mustang GT with less than 60k miles (can’t remember, it’s been a few days since riding in it) might be on the market next year for 12k$.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
12/07/2016 at 22:52

Pretty bad. The hood started flaking the first week I had it. But the paint isn’t what’s so bad, it’s how susceptible to denting it is. It has major hail damage...FROM...acorns. The near weightless nut.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > E90M3
12/07/2016 at 22:54

Last year we had a few FoST owners on oppo complain they were getting 19mpgs, or something awful, and that’s while staying off boost. Anecdotes for sure, but it’s hard to stomach fuel economy like that on a FWD 4-banger. There was also the complaint against Ferd that the Ecoboost vehicles did not get the fuel economy that was advertised.

We have several oppo member that are former FoST/FiST owners. Think about that — these models are only a few years old!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Nothing
12/07/2016 at 22:56

Wow, you traded a ‘12 Tundra? Next you’re going to tell me it had the 5.7 and 4x4...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > daender
12/07/2016 at 22:56

I’ll probably eat crow and head on out to the Dairy Queen in a new Camaro if I don’t get a resurge of love toward it. I have a special place for S197's, but it’s not as my DD replacement. Who knows, I may just get a Volt. I love the idea of never needing gas for work.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
12/07/2016 at 22:57

All modern car paint, aside from some luxury car paint with multiple layers of clear, is absolute flaming garbage. It’s from some combination of environmental regulations and cost cutting. It’s nearly impossible to avoid chips from road debris.

E90M3 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:58

That is interesting, I’ve really only heard rave reviews about the FoST/FiST. One of my college friends has a 2013 FoST and loves it, he’s had it 3 years now. The M3 gets pretty much what the widow sticker said as far as MPG. 14 around town.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 22:58

If I paid cash for it, it would be gone at a massive loss by now.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 22:59

Definitely a friday car. Does the hood have insulation under it? The heat is the only reason I can think of a new paint flaking so quickly.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:00

You have clearly joined some ST groups. What is with these cars? If I keep mine going for 10 years, I’ll probably have the last one that is still in one piece without a branded title.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:00

Ford really needs to get their shit together in the quality control department. Our Fusion is the first car my parents have ever repeatedly had to send back to the dealer for interior trim adjustment. And I can still see down into the dash at the base of the A-pillars thanks to the gigantic gap that’s there, among other things that I’d expect out of my brothers Grand Am or my S10, not a modern car.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > E90M3
12/07/2016 at 23:03

I actually average better than EPA ratings in my FiST, it’s just kind of really shoddily built. And there are better cars for not much more money. Also Ford has an awesome first time buyer program, so often it’s the only choice for young enthusiasts with low credit, but want a fun new car. After the new wears off and the credit builds, there are just better cars available, as long as you don’t need 4 doors. That said, I still would rather have my FiST over an 86.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:03

Sad to hear but I can’t say I’m surprised. My brief test drive in one did not give me a sense of solid construction or build quality. The materials felt cheaper than they should have.

As a weekend toy it’s a great idea. I am sure I would not like the ownership experience long term as a DD.

I am very pleased with my GTI purchase. After nearly one year I have never felt like I bought to wrong car. There are things I am going to change/improve as it is not perfect. But it works very well as a DD when all I want to do is get home without a fuss.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
12/07/2016 at 23:07

Honestly when I do replace it, I think I’m going pony car. I have no need for practicality, and I want more go.

Nothing > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 23:09

Kinja'd!!!

5.7, Crewmax, 4x4. It was a great truck. My two Tundras are vehicles I’d take back. My ‘02 was the first new vehicle I ever bought. 4x4 TRD Off Road. My ‘12 was the second vehicle I ever bought new. 3 of 4 new vehicle purchases for me have been Toyota trucks.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
12/07/2016 at 23:09

A little, but not full coverage.

E90M3 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:10

If you could do it again, what you buy?

BMW also has a program for recent graduates, I guess they want to get you to get hooked at an early age.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 23:11

Jesus, my V12 S class gets better than that on the highway.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:12

And one of your complaints is build quality. Good luck with that...

m-b-w loves his SUBAROO > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:12

Lemon law may end up being your friend!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
12/07/2016 at 23:12

Mine still is in one piece with a clear title, but it attracts terrible drivers like nothing I’ve ever been in.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > m-b-w loves his SUBAROO
12/07/2016 at 23:17

We’ll see what the dealer says.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
12/07/2016 at 23:17

The Camaro is actually pretty well put together, as much as it pains me to say that.

jkm7680 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:18

That’s how I felt when I went to test drive one, didn’t end up much better off though.

Lemon law likely won’t apply, I’m having a bunch of issues with my Jetta and it’s just too much work to maybe get an actual claim through.

What would you get instead?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > E90M3
12/07/2016 at 23:21

I would have taken the down payment, rented a car, dropped the 4Runner off at a reputable shop, and told them to fix what they find. Then I would of bought a cheap Miata/E30/944 as a toy shortly after. Which I could have done by now, had I had not purchased the Fiesta.

TheHondaBro > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:24

The new Si is coming out soon. Think you could trade in? Got equity on the ST?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jkm7680
12/07/2016 at 23:25

On a mountain road, the FiST makes 110% sense. Sadly I don’t live THAT close to the mountains. On a daily basis it’s hilarious still, but not enough to be worth it.

If I could go back? As I told E90M3, I wouldn’t have bought anything. I would have just fixed the 4Runner and bought a Miata/E30/944 a few months later.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:26

That’s a shame but i can’t say I’m too surprised, if anyone is gonna have problems with it it would most likely be those.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > TheHondaBro
12/07/2016 at 23:28

I’m not going back to FWD.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 23:36

The problem with most bros that buy them is that they fall into at least one of these categories:

A) Too young, indecisive, and/or have no attention span.

B) Have never driven a manual car before, so this is their first (and probably last) one. Burning a clutch out by 10k miles is pretty common.

C) Bought the first couple years, so they suffered early adopter problems.

D) Will wreck it in no more than 2 years because it’s actually more powerful than they can handle.

E) Can’t leave it alone, constantly modifying it until it breaks.

E) Bought it exclusively on the praise showered on them by online car reviewers.

F) Made a down payment with their military signing bonus, then realized they couldn’t really afford the payments.

Probably cruel, but belonging to multiple groups, I have seen these so many times that they don’t even surprise me anymore.

Life and Times of Magoo: The People's Champ > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:37

This and the comments are the first time I heard any of these problems going on. Shame. I’m a Mazda guy with a Speed3 but I always hope for all of these types of cars to do well and BE GOOD so sales dictate we keep getting them.

C62030 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/07/2016 at 23:39

My 26-year-old V6 Pontiac gets better than that. Holy crap.

C62030 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:42

What a shame, especially since the Fusion and Mustang have gotten significantly better in terms of quality (although Fusion production is also moving to Mexico too, so it’ll probably end up like this sooner or later).

not for canada - australian in disguise > For Sweden
12/07/2016 at 23:42

They’re sending some bad Hombres.

Kinja'd!!!

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3
12/07/2016 at 23:48

They don’t get awful fuel economy by my standards, but it’s definitely not an economy car. You need self control to get reasonable gas mileage, which is in very short supply among the average bros that buy them. They will easily beat the EPA estimates if you stay out of the boost.

MyJeepGetsStuckInTheSnow > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:51

Having been nailed in the head by one falling from a tree when hunting I would have thought they weighed a million pounds.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > MyJeepGetsStuckInTheSnow
12/07/2016 at 23:56

My 4Runner is parked directly under the tree that they come from. Zero dents.

Nibby > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:58

yes you are

Kinja'd!!!

MyJeepGetsStuckInTheSnow > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:58

I bet. The sheet metal on some of these new cars is really thin. Is the hood aluminum?

Wacko > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/07/2016 at 23:59

So ford is back to

Quality is job none.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Nibby
12/08/2016 at 00:01

No thanks.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/08/2016 at 00:01

There’s no way to get 19mpg driving unless it was broken, modified, or you’re perpetually idling in stop-and-go traffic.

Oddly enough, it really hates idling for a four-banger, with possibly the worst idling fuel consumption I’ve ever seen in a car. It make cars with V8s I’ve owned look downright fuel efficient.

Even when I drive like a complete maniac for an entire tank, I still see at least 24-25mpg.

Jayhawk Jake > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/08/2016 at 00:02

19 mpg? I average 24 in my Mustang...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > MyJeepGetsStuckInTheSnow
12/08/2016 at 00:03

I honestly don’t know. Possibly.

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 00:06

Does a magnet stick to it?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Wacko
12/08/2016 at 00:08

When GM and Ford were building their new 10 speed, GM passed the quality torch to Ford.

Jayhawk Jake > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
12/08/2016 at 00:08

Ford owners are delusional. I can’t get anyone to diagnose or fix the two annoying noises my car makes.

Of course I fucking love my car so fuck you ford for making me put up with your shit because the product is inherently good

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jayhawk Jake
12/08/2016 at 00:09

I don’t know, but a magnet will probably pull the paint off.

E90M3 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 00:10

Is the 4Runner that good or does it just mean that much to you since it was your first car?

E90M3 > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
12/08/2016 at 00:14

It sounds like you have one, has it lived up to the hype?

My E90 was the first car I bought and it has certainly been an amazing car, my expectations weren’t let down.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > E90M3
12/08/2016 at 00:21

Build quality wise, yes, Toyota didn’t get that reputation by buying out publications.

flyingmetalbird > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 00:52

Are you the one that got the ST in from the auto show with that ford GT shade of blue or was that another guy?

TheHondaBro > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 00:53

Drive in reverse.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Nibby
12/08/2016 at 01:58

A fate worse than death

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 03:31

How many times have you been hit? If the drivers don’t crash them themselves, someone seems to be constantly hitting them. It’s crazy.

Frank Grimes > Nibby
12/08/2016 at 03:35

I would drive that. Its so clean there is dignity in it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
12/08/2016 at 07:12

I haven’t yet, but it seems like I have to take the shoulder at least once a week from someone coming into my lane.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > flyingmetalbird
12/08/2016 at 07:13

It’s another guy, mine is Kona Blue.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 07:41

*Disclaimer: Chevy guy. But you know that.*

Oddly, though I know from experience that the Fiesta is a piece of shit...

It’s one of three Ford vehicles I’d have. The other two would be the Raptor and a Fusion 2.0 EgoBoost AWD.

I drove a base model auto for a bit, and the conclusions was: It’s tinny, gutless, the transmission is shit, it feels like it’s made of tinfoil, it’s ugly, the interior is garbage, but stick it a corner and it was absolute magic. The ST fixes the lack of power, fits a manual trans that I can make do what I want, looks much better, and will still have that magical chassis setup (but slightly better in fact), and I could live with the rest. I mean, I live with a first gen Colorado. I’d be the first guy to tell you that the interior quality is, at best, crap. And I don’t care.

It’s an interesting situation, and I think it can be summed up in one question: Would you care if you never drove it again? For my truck, I’d miss the small size, the looks, the determined feel and of course the engine. I most definitely would miss it. The Fiesta... I definitely miss the handling, but as a whole, no. I don’t care if I never drive one again. The ST might be a different story. The Fusion wouldn’t bother me, which makes me think that if I had one I’d end up in the same situation as you are now. Our family vehicle is a 2011 Sienna. I hate it. I actively avoid driving it. It replaced a 2002 Montana, which I do actually miss. Also an ‘88 Chevy Beauville van... which I miss a ton. My sister has a ‘10 Golf. I used to love driving it, now I’m happy to leave it to someone else.

...you know maybe I just like shit

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
12/08/2016 at 08:25

Honestly I don’t think I would miss it, that’s how I know I’m over it.

MrH4242 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 09:38

I hear ya. I was swapping cars nearly every year for awhile. Last car was a Hyundai Genesis R-spec sedan. Had so many issues with it, I got rid of it for a 4Runner. It’s a breathe of fresh air. So much utility, everything always works. Not the most dynamic thing in the world, but it’s a great vehicle to own.

Arrivederci > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 09:44

My BRZ has a dent in the roof from a falling acorn. In the car’s defense, I did hit it at speed driving through a neighborhood. Not sure if that exacerbated the impact.

But I feel you on the garbage paint - Subaru’s is complete crap. Mine was full of defects right off the lot. I took it to a dealer and they actually resprayed about half the damn car. Apparently the new paint is garbage too - I take immaculate care of this thing and the paint has many coats of polish, but if a damn bird poops on it and I don’t know to get it off within maybe 30 minutes (you know, sitting in my office at work for 8+ hours daily), it’ll etch the paint. It’s fucking ridiculous.

diplodicus > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 10:25

People just don’t pay enough attention and don’t see smaller cars. I had the same issue in my SVT Focus, and my E30.

Vicente Esteve > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/08/2016 at 10:40

I didn’t think you were going to be over it so quickly. All of your problems though are understandable and worthwhile to complain. I for one am on a similar boat.

I adore my Golf, it literally is all the car anyone will ever need. But RWD is what I really wanted in the first place, for some reason I was confused or ignorant about it and now I am always in the lookout for a possible replacement. Either way, the comments on this post is going to be good.

yitznewton > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
12/08/2016 at 10:56

EgoBoost heeheehee why have I never heard that before?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > E90M3
12/08/2016 at 17:03

If I knew the answer I’d tell you. Great FWD performance car for the money, but the market is oversaturated with similarly priced awesome and even better cars perhaps? Or maybe they realized the potential the motor has is not only limited by cylinders an displacement, but also by being FWD? Or maybe it’s just one of those cars that’s got a fun shelf life before you try a different cereal brand.

Who knows...I’ll tell you I enjoyed the hell outa mine, I just wanted RWD, and a Mustang more so.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/08/2016 at 17:04

Thank you kindly for thinking of me. :)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
12/08/2016 at 17:08

I prefer old non-water based paint that hurts the environment to modern Ford paint, and new paint in general. My 32 year old 944 had as many or less paint chips as my ST did by the time I’d traded it in. :p

But my Mustang’s paint is holding up pretty good so far. Much better, in fact. But I know it could get worse from now on. :p

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
12/08/2016 at 17:10

When’d you get a GTI??? Or was it that one Wolfsburg Edition?

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/08/2016 at 17:50

Almost a year ago, January of this year.

Nothing special edition, but did make the dealer swap the cloth S seats into my SE that would have black leather. Also have the performance package.

E90M3 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/08/2016 at 18:10

All of that makes sense, maybe people just out grow them as well, in terms of wanting more.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3
12/08/2016 at 19:44

There’s a lot of hype out there, so I couldn’t say whether it lives up to all of it, but it’s definitely what reviewers described - a practical car that is fun to drive. It has excellent handling for what it is (they did a great job balancing the car so it doesn’t even feel FWD, aside from very slight torque steer), is probably the most practical car I’ve ever owned, and it’s even pretty nice inside. You get a lot for the money. It’s certainly possible to trade off one or two on this list to get more of the other at the same price, but you can’t get a decent blend of all three in one car. I think a lot of people expect a lot more of one of these than there is, not a practical blend of all three.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/08/2016 at 20:04

GM water baised paint is the worse while Glasurit knows how to make a base coat cover well. Only weak point of german cars is the clear coat. Every w126 and e38 from Florida have a clear coat bald spot on the roof.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
12/08/2016 at 20:47

Glasurit is always good or above average from what I’ve seen. I don’t even want to see what GM paint is like after 20 years.

E90M3 > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
12/08/2016 at 21:20

That’s a fair enough assessment.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/09/2016 at 01:18

I’ll paint you an imagine, its shit paint especially on white paint. The roof paint peels off and has either exposed metal or with primer.

96Formula6spd > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/20/2016 at 12:49

Yeah a buddy of mine is in the same boat. I played with his 2015. After a few weeks the new car thing wore off. Its an ok car to drive. To me its under powered. Plus it could really use a diff.

My buddy who has the car finally put a pin in why its not special. Mainly it does not make you feel special. His girl friend has a regular fiesta and he says its 95% of the fun. Right now he would sell it for the loan payoff. About the only good thing is he averages 34mpg out of with the best at 41mpg. However it could leave today and he would not care.

After driving his I would have came back from the test drive and said no thank you. Better options out there. Maybe not brand new ones but still newer stuff I would buy instead.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > 96Formula6spd
12/20/2016 at 17:38

Eh, my feelings have changed again. I discovered the source of my shift issues. Something I installed. That and I learned how it is supposed to be driven. It has to be driven like you are pissed off for everything to make since. It’s more fun than anything else I tested, including the two pony cars worth having, so for now, it stays.

96Formula6spd > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
12/20/2016 at 18:59

Yeah being around autox enough and knowing people I get the keys to loads of stuff. Right now one of the 2015 mustangs are a lot of fun. Granted its double of a firsta st. I think he paid 35k with the track pack. But if I was shopping in that 20k budget I think a wrx would be nice. Granted I don’t think I could live with the owners.

However I will not be buying a car with payments again. From now on its all cash buys. I have been looking into Base C5 Corvettes. As a daily I would love it. After driving some at some Autox events I’ll keep the miata. But who know I think my new plan is to get my first car running again. I do miss having the ability of a v8. And if I get the one running it should be making 430+wrhp.